In Utah, illegal immigrants lose government food aid - I have to feed my family," said a mother of five who works as a housekeeper at a nursing home

No one ever said life was fair. How about a story about Americans who won't eat tonight because all the resources for these programs were used by illegals.

I'm going to send the Governor of Utah a big thank you note! Kudos to Utah!!

American food banks should be for americans and not for illegals. If they want american aid then they need to return to their countries since more than likely americans are providing aid there. America for Americans and legal immigrants.

Beckyal

American food banks should be for americans and not for illegals.

Sorry, but food banks are to feed the "hungry" not just the American "hungry". To do otherwise would be a violation of thier mission for many.

I donate to food banks regularly (both food and money), if I found out they were denying food to *anyone* who needed it I would pull my support from such an organization in a second.

You might want to work a bit on your hate, it seems to be clouding your judgment.

jmorris, if a food bank runs out of food, what about the legal immigrants and Americans that go hungry?

april-1023405,,,I can't speak for all Food Banks, but the one near me that we donate food to requires people to show a Social Security Card for every member of the household which is applying for food assistance.

Also if the family in the article was using stolen or fake Social Security cards or numbers, they should be arrested and tried for that offense and anything of value they own confiscated to repay towards the value of the food stamps they illegal took. Then after serving their time they should be deported.

That's the problem...those danged stolen or counterfeit Social Security cards.

april-1023405,,,I can't speak for all Food Banks, but the one near me that we donate food to requires people to show a Social Security Card for every member of the household which is applying for food assistance.

The one that I volunteered at in NJ, you didn't have to show your ss#. You had to be part of welfare and the food bank had to be notified prior by welfare that so-and-so will be using that (you couldn't walk in and expect to get food; they needed to know you from the welfare office and exactly how many lived in the household). The person would call and a check list would be made and we had to get the items and bag them. The caller is given a number and then they come and pick it up after saying what their number is. We didn't check who this person was that was picking up the food; they just said the number and got their groceries.

Then after serving their time they should be deported

dont even waste tax dollars putting them in prison - just deport them

It's a simple problem with a simple solution : If you can not feed the children you have, do not breed more children! Si usted no puede alimentar a los hijos que tiene, no se reproducen más hijos!

The anchor baby program MUST stop, deport the illegals and their childern as well. If it were not easy to get citizenship for every child born here and they did not have access to all the freebies , the flow of pregnant Illegals would dwindle to a trickle.

Very true Marcia, That is one that ALL humans should live by !

"Don't breed what you can't feed"

I saw that sticker one day on a car!

I pissed at the human society, they should nutter for free or 20.00 it would save them money in the long run. I have rescued 4 aminals from them. Just in the last 6 yrs.

Exactly! Why was their full income not counted in the first place? Mine would be! Yours would be!

As for the children, while I hate it they've been born into poverty, I have to ask, why do the mothers keep having babies they know they can't feed?

What bothers me most about all of this, is the fact that our Country has taken itself to the point that brings up these debates. It's our Country, for crying out loud!

My husband and I work hard for what we have, and when we're struggling to make ends meet, there's no assistance out there for us! Why? Because we both work, and we don't have a house full of kids! I tell my husband all the time that I think we should quit our jobs and let the governemnt support us for a while instead of the other way around. Of course, we would never do that, but it's really frustrating sometimes.

I second your statement, Tip4ya.

It's our Country, for crying out loud!

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But the families who have showed up at a pantry at St. Mark's Cathedral in Salt Lake City have not understood the bureaucratic changes and wonder if Americans are being given preference over them.

It's a shame they suffer, but they are ILLEGAL, nothing more needs to be explained and why they don't understand that is painful to try to comprehend. I now see below the reactions to this statement others share my sentiment.

Tip4ya

thats the point of them having kids so then their kids will be legal citizens and the benefits can be put in their name

April, the California governor gave unemployment to illegals and many illegals get aid regardless of what you say.
Just look at the aid that Obama's aunt got: Housing, food stamps, medical,etc.

As "april1023405" pointed out, the illegals children born in America are entitled to get food stamps. Do the math, the more children the illegal has the more food stamps received and the more food that they all then share at home. "Children=Dollars" to illegals.

I am hoping that "someone" really starts pushing the rulings by the SCOTUS that said, in three cases, that anchor babies are NOT U. S. citizens. When they do, all the bleeding hearts are truly going to have heart-attacks.

April, I was thinking the same thing! Gold star for Naftel!

im sure her home country would be happy to provide food for her family..

"But the families who have showed up at a pantry at St. Mark's Cathedral in Salt Lake City have not understood the bureaucratic changes and wonder if Americans are being given preference over them."
Don't KNOW the answer but it should be.....OF COURSE, THEY SHOULD!

Americans have give many reasons that we need to support illegals but it is now time to stop and realize that they are a drag on our society. They are costly and it needs to stop.

sorry devilsadvocates, I think you may have misspelled that (just kidding)...it should be:

HELL YES they are getting preference, dumbass, they are here legally

Naftel: One of the most appropriate responses I have read.

I am so sick of these bleeding heart sob stories. I feel bad for the kids - they didn't ask born into their situation but that doesn't the rest of us must pay and pay and PAY for their parent's freedom of choice to invade our country and their continual theft of Community services.

This cry of "I need to feed my five childern" by an illegal mother is a prime example of my thoughts I posted on another seed: You get enough biting flies on an elephant and the elephant will be drained dry. The American Elephant is about 1/2 drained and going down fast. Let's toss on a few more illegal flies with their anchor baby flies. What happens when the elephant is down and out?

These illegals keep popping out more kids then they can feed. An smart person, even "a good Catholic", knows if you can't feed the kid you have you don't bring more into the world. Is it a more sinister plan to take back the SW United States by out breeding everyone else? (conspiracy theory much?) And we soft hearted Americans foot the OB bills, the hospital bill and the NICU if needed, free of charge to them. Are we stupid or what? American citizens should have it so good.

Illegals expect and demand we tax payers support them in all manners - free to extremely low cost housing, free medical care, no cost (to them) lunches, everything in Spanish because they are too damn lazy to learn the English.

The economy is so bad that many Americans are having to swallow their pride and seek help often for the first time in their lives. They finally get the nerve to ask for help and walk into the local DHS. What do they encounter - a waiting room full of illegals and their 3, 4, 5 , 6 anchor babies. My daughter use to go to a low cost OB/GYN clinic for her yearly check up. She was often the ONLY Anglo in the waiting room...The magazines were in SPanish, the information and phamlets were in Spanish and the TV set was stuck on a Spanish Telenovela. We've lived in Central American. I thought I was overseas the first time I went with her. She is way past due a check up again but will not go back there.

DEPORT THEM (and their kids) TO THE BACK OF THE LINE and let them apply to be here legaly. If that means they must wait years, then WAIT! Thousands of other people come here yearly and they do it legally. Just because you're from Mexico and dropped a few anchor babies out while you were here, does not mean you get a free pass or bumped to the head of the waiting list.

Another part to that is the arrogance and entitlement attitude. If I had to swallow my pride after losing everything, my shame would be all over me, these people, stick out their hands and start at you daring you to say anything. I have to deal with this attitude everyday.

I MIGHT have felt a little bit sorry for this woman until I got to the part of the story where it became clear that the food stamps were cut because THEY NOW COUNT ALL HOUSEHOLD INCOME. So basically, these people have been receiving TOO MUCH in food stamp help for who knows how long! I can't feel sorry for people whose entitlements are cut because they make too much money to qualify for them.

Naftel, great post !

Two things that seem to be forgotten in today's society are, Responsibility and Accountability for ones own Actions.

kjm-

THEY NOW COUNT ALL HOUSEHOLD INCOME

Good point. She may not be able to feed her children on what SHE receives but ALL of those in the same household should be able to get by as those subsisting on pantries and foodstamps often do.

Kazutam, that comment struck a nerve with me, as well!

I say round them all up and send them home! Let their government take care of them for a while!

Exactly, April!

april

and the next question is....where is the outrage? Where is the media?....

As soon as the "Hispanic rights" groups get involved and start screaming "racism" the media will be all over this story.

The SAD thing is that they will pick up the "preference" line and condemn it while conveniently ignoring that the ILLEGALS have been getting "preference" all along.

The media prints what the Ministry of Propaganda tells it to print. Illegals do not get aid and Nevada has no illegal immigrants working in construction.

And they've been getting preferential treatment in the fact that they are not even supposed to be here to get any aid at all.

I don't believe it is preference. I believe that it is the legal enforcement of our laws. Ilegals are not suppose to receive any aid. It is a felonry to aid them and any food bank should be closed if it is giving aid to illegals.

Beck they do receive aid. It is a state decision. Some states give them help knowing they are illegal where the other loophole is the anchors. This is what I keep saying, illegals should have to prove where the money is going for the anchor so as not to be used by them and the other illeglas. Thats why so many live together perhaps to feed off of each other.

Kazutam, you made me think of something when you wrote

"As soon as the "Hispanic rights" groups get involved and start screaming "racism" the media will be all over this story."

Why are not the "Hispanic rights" groups out their feeding the Illegals, they want them here let them feed them. They could all offer to support one Illegal family or pay 10% more income tax to go to support the Illegals. Bet you wouldn't see many Hispanic rights groups anymore !

Excellent!

The feds are trying to delay it. Hope it does not happen but the president has a way of shoving HIS agenda thru.

Personally, I'd like to see Arizona tell Obama to go Screw himself, ignore any injunctions, then SUE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT for failing to live up to it's Constitutional duties. THAT would be a fun thing to watch.

Hey Neale I have been saying they need to counter sue and I am hoping other states will also. This administration is ignoring people, I think its a delay tactic so they can shove thru amnesty. If he does that, he would be setting up a group of illegals to be harmed by others IMHO and that would be bad.

NO, Sherry. He'd have bought 11+ million new Democrat voters, and assured himself a second term. THAT would be the end of a representative republic, and the beginning of the end of the Constitution as we know it.

This conflict sure is educating people on the constitution!

Many americans don't look at the end results of what happens, they just want to be "nice". It is like many bills that the democrats are pushing through, they don't realize that problems that they will cause. In fact, they don't care they just want their way.

That is very true. Everyone just wants to be "a good person", and think that giving things to people actually helps them. Generally the OPPOSITE is true. If you give someone something, all you've done is reinforce a habit of not having to do for yourself. If you feed someone their entire life, they won't know how to get food for themself. If you clothe someone, they won't know how to get clothes. If you give them money, they won't know how to make money. It isn't rocket science...

The government wants people to be dependant on them. That gives them the ultimate control. If we feel like we will die without them, then they can do whatever they want and there is nothing we can do about it, because without them, we wouldn't survive.

In the end people try to do the right thing, and the government makes you believe that giving things to people is the right thing to do. In reality it is the opposite. You hurt them, and make them unable to take care of themselves. In return it hurts all of us.... It seems harsh to push the little birdy out of the nest... but that is the only way they will ever learn how to fly.

If we had never let any Mexicans in the country illegally, and stopped them from crossing the border, what would Mexico be like today? Is it perhaps the fact that we let them run away from their problems that enables their society to be as bad as it is? If they were forced to deal with it instead of fleeing to an "easier life", maybe Mexico wouldn't be the hell hole it is today.

GJL-1583541, Great point, as Mexico is ranked by the "World Bank" and The International Monetary Fund" as the 14th Richest nation in the world. If Mexican people would stand up and do something that money would not just be in the hands of a few down there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

My husband I wonder why we don't bill Mexico to recoup the money we spend caring for their people? Think how things could improve if the millions and millions of money a year spent at one hospital could recovered by Mexico and put toward helping poor and under covered American citizens and legal residences? School systems should sue for recovery of costs for every child of illegals. (Not every child of an illegal is born here.)Too many stories where a child was bought her a two year or three year old. These adult kids are crying because they believe they deserve instate tuition and all the perks of a full US Citizen.

People forget - even if one person gets legal - they often bring their extended family members to live with them. So now we end up with Momcita, babies, uncles, aunts, grandparents, first, second, third cousins. They all work and I admit they are often hard jobs for lower wages. They pool their incomes. But the legal one will apply for assitance based on their single income to help support their Sister's anchor babies and forget to mention the other household income is being sent on new cars, saved for extremely costly Quinceañeras or sent to Mexico instead of caring for their extended family here. Cry me a freakin' Rio Grande river...GO HOME! Dont drag my country down to the same level your Country is.

agree 100% .. Ive even said that in another story before ..

Imprisoning them would just cost us as much money as if we fed them. I'd say either you start tagging them like animals when you catch them, and then let a satellite warn you if they cross again, or put them into labor camps for however long. 2 years for first offense, 5 for second. Life for third. Then they can be fed and clothed all they want while they build and fix our roads, maintain our government buildings, and clean our streets and towns. That would be no different than what they do in other countries if we were found there illegally. Mexico imprisons people (and if you are familiar with what constitutes a prison in Mexico... you'd realize just how horrifying the concept of that is.), other countries shoot you on sight, or at the very least imprison you.

So why are we the only country that rewards people for breaking in? Why do we feel the need to allow others to use us, and then when the situation is reversed we have no problem with the fact they kill or imprison our citizens? Why are WE the bad guy for wanting to protect our interests, when every other country in the world protects theirs? Then they criticize us, because they know we are weak willed, and half our population will break down and cry if someone says we are mean....

pathetic...

You demonstrate a reasonable argument that boarders is on the edge. Nonetheless, it raises good thoughts to consider on the illegal discussion. Certainly not one that would be accepted in the liberal political or academic castles.

I agree it is edgy, but at the same time how else do you send a message that people are NOT welcome here illegally? Catch and release does absolutely nothing because they just walk back over, nothing lost.You have to make the punishment harsh so it actually deters people from doing it. The point is for it not to happen, not to punish people. If the punishment was being shot on sight, how many would come? They would have to weigh the chance of getting killed on sight to their life in Mexico.If our border security got 9 out of 10 people, then there wouldn't be anyone even trying to come here. That being said... death is a too extreme, but short of that, you have to send a message.

Basically you have to make the punishment for coming to the US illegally worse than life in Mexico, otherwise they will still come. That is just a simple fact heh. Some might even count our prisons as a welcome reprieve from poverty, and therefore if we imprison them, then oh well. If they have to do hard labor for 2 years for nothing but food and clothing, and they knew that NEXT time they will have to do 5, and then LIFE... how many would make that 3rd trip across? heh. It is harsh, but at the same time some things demand a hard edge to get done.

Could be she is really saying to her partner is: "Hey I need more free @!$%# so lets have another kid. What a grand idea." I mean really how much does a box of condoms cost? I am sure Planned Parenthood would pass them out at little to no cost and the same with birth control pills. She needed a free tubal ligation three kids ago or learning to say "Not tonight - honey." (And we won't start talking about the insanity surrounding that freak show Occtomom. At least she is legal. If any kids needed to be fostered or adopted out it would be hers. But that's an entirely different seed.)

Any bets as to how long before some one blames Bush, Cheney and The Tea Party for this? Any takers?

The thing is mon and April, both political parties are in agreement here more or less regarding illegals, but the government is not listening.

Great job the gal. Also new food for thought. Let the gov. who wants people to depend on them so heavily foot the bill for their food, clothes, cell phones ect. Not the US citizens who are done.

I'm waiting for RDS, American Latina and a few others to pop up on this seed and entertain us with their views on this topic. I feel bad when people, especially kids go hungry through no fault of their own. But smart, considerate, legal people know enough not to have more kids then you can support by yourself.

Marcia the illegals have kids to anchor themselves too. I give free care to them EVERY day and give them EVERYthing for free. Then 8 out of 10 stick their hands out for more. They know they are favored and intitled. I work to pay my bills and now I have to pay others over and over. You are right its a shame these selfish people expect us to care for their kids. Trust me these illegals do not miss a meal, or the ones I have seen do not. They also crowd together, work under the table collect assistance. At Christmas at the hospital they take all the presents for their sick kids and well ones, any food put out for the families they swarm with all their friends leaving nothing for other families. Ronald Mcdonald, they expect others to cook for them and they take the food then come to the hospital demanding gas and food voulchers. Bitter and done yep I guess I am.

Oh and the gal, I could read your story over and over, what a wonderful story, I worked full time and put myself thru college 3 times and took care of my son. I received no assistance, I had to pay for my college, no grants, no nothing,I alway made too much money, but I did it. That is the way it should be unless you have great support, work out of assistance don't work to stay in it.

Well according to the gov. they have been auditing companys and fining them, releasing the illegals so they can move on to another place. The gov. has collected millions from the companies, yet they release the illegals and do not deport. The gov. is taking money and releasing illegals. They do fine the businesses, they just do not FINISH their job. The gov is useless.